Starting a Guild - General help? - Guild Wars Forums

Riodan · May 01, 2005, 07:45 AM // 07:45

First off i'd like to introduce myself, my real name is Jeremy, in-game name(s), Riodan Riordan and Sebastian Saranfell. I'm a 32 year old game'a'holic who recently bought Guild Wars. I belong to a clan/guild called Free World Fighters or FwF, we are an online gaming community with associations in Counterstrike Source, Star Wars Galaxies, Jedi Academy, Soldier of Fortune 2 and a few other games.

I've recently created our new guild for Guild Wars and have managed to get the cape (although not without significant confusion.) And our next step is obtaining our guild hall. I guess my question is, is there a way to get the guild hall post-searing and regardless of if we can post or not, how do we go about getting it and what do we need to have to get it?

(And for those of you who haven't figured out how to get the Cape yet:)
In order to get the cape or to start your guild, you need to see the guild registrar who's directly back from the gate leading to the countryside in Ascalon, simply go up 2 flights of stairs and he's standing to the right of the main building next to a baron or duke with guards. Talk to him, and he'll get you started on your guild. In order to get your cape, you will need to have collected up 2 platinum bars. For those of you who don't know, collect up 2,000 gold pieces, each 1,000 gp = 1 platinum bar.

Anyhow, I appreciate your site and your information and look forward to meeting a few of you in-game eventually, in hopes of friendly guild matches and extended fun.

Flame · May 01, 2005, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Getting a Guild Hall is a bit more complicated than getting the Cape.

The first step is obtaining a Celestial Sigil, which can be aquired two ways. The first is to win in the Hall of Heroes, which is unlikely for many groups unless they are highly coordinated, as well as powerful. The easier way is to simply buy one, which will usually cost around 12,000 gold.

To use the Sigil and get a Guild Hall, you must go to Lion's Arch and speak with the Canthan Boat Captain. He will offer to take you to a number of different islands, each of which has a different Hall. There, you simply give the Sigil to an NPC, claiming the island as your own.

Pinchy · May 01, 2005, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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The easier way is to simply buy one, which will usually cost around 12,000 gold.

You're crazy if you payed that much for it, alot of the high level guilds auction them off for around 5-7k.

Kaleido Katie · May 02, 2005, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by Pinchy

You're crazy if you payed that much for it, alot of the high level guilds auction them off for around 5-7k.

If you think that's crazy.. the "going rate" right now is 20-25k gold for it. I swear yesterday it was going for 9k, so I worked my bum off to make the money. Then today, I'm told by someone they're only sell 20k and up. They said they were selling it cheap at 20k. :/

I tried earning it, but my team always died. There has got to be an easier way to get these things. I'm worried that if I work hard to make that other 15k, the new going rate will go up to like 30k...

corax5 · May 03, 2005, 10:44 AM // 10:44

I was having the same problems getting the money, isnt the point of the game to have guild battles, thats a bit hard when you have to save up 20k+ for the guild hall.

Flame · May 03, 2005, 10:58 AM // 10:58

You don't have to save up the money. When I bought mine, I had around 7,000 gold. I borrowed 2,000 from one officer and 1,000 from another, then tossed in a few items to get it. To repay both officers, I just asked every other member to donate 100 gold.

Cymboric Treewalker · May 03, 2005, 01:57 PM // 13:57

Still the price seems a bit steep... I thought the sigil vendor was going to sell these things at 2000.

varyag · May 03, 2005, 02:37 PM // 14:37

This is a scam. I will never give that amount of resources to an opponent guild.

I hear of huge alliances of guilds forming to team up in the GvGvG arenas of the Tombs to eliminate any opponents 2 on 1 and push one of their own to the top, then share the fortune once a Sigil is sold.
This is a SCAM, defeats the purpose of the competition and if you BUY IT YOU SUPPORT IT.

Trash the middlemen!

Spylate · May 03, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14

I don't really know about this so thats why I want to know, can you get the sigil on PvE or is it Pvp only? If on PvE how? EDIT: Sigil trader never has those damn sigils! Always she says: "Sorry my mistake I ran out of stock, come back later. Do the traders ever have the sigils?

Argent · May 03, 2005, 03:21 PM // 15:21

If you go to the island, the siglils are always sold out.... so good luck w/ buying them cheap.

Spylate · May 03, 2005, 03:24 PM // 15:24

Still waiting answer for my question

Flame · May 03, 2005, 10:47 PM // 22:47

They're PvP only, you need to win them in the Hall of Heroes.

Varyag, that sounds like the complaint of someone who cannot make the money. If you don't pay, you won't win one in the Hall, because of those Guild Alliances you complain of. So, what do you suggest, camping the Sigil Trader?

SOT · May 04, 2005, 12:03 AM // 00:03

Why is there anger about it from the one guy up there? Just follow procedure, get the blasted thing, move on with life. If you cannot get it, ask yourself why, change your tactics. Calm down

varyag · May 04, 2005, 12:51 AM // 00:51

I'll try to win one in the HoH for sure, there is no other choice at the moment.

The price was 5 to 8 plat a few days ago, 20k+ today and I read about a 25K + 50steel deal. Even with level20 characters, how many hours will it take to farm that?

Sure it will be easier to farm for gold/items to trade for it with a fully leveled character in the final missions - but where is the guarantee they won't just keep pushing the price up? Where will it stop?
Right now they want about 1/2 (!!!) of an average guild's total money pool, will it matter if your resources double if by then they double the price?

Just follow the procedure, get scammed, promote scalping, move on with life.

Your counter-arguments sound like you are either to foolish to realize what's going to happen or somehow benefit from it. Shame on you.

Sigil trade between players should be outlawed and only conducted at static rates through the NPC Trader.

P.S. Answer - Sigils are at the moment availiable only from winning in the PvP tournament - or trading with the people that have one. The Sigil traders are either out of them permanently - or get camped and bought out on a regular basis. Hope that answers it.

Flame · May 04, 2005, 10:19 AM // 10:19

Half of a guild's money pool? In a guild of 50 players, asking 400 gold each would result in 20,000. You're trying to tell me that most players have less than 1,000 gold?

varyag · May 04, 2005, 02:18 PM // 14:18

Average PvP guilds have 16 to 20 people, and the price is no longer 20K, its about twice as much. If people continue to be able to collect such sums - there is no reason for the prices not to continue to rise. The scalpers can do this math too.

mearei · May 04, 2005, 05:05 PM // 17:05

saw one going for 30k today

butcherboy · May 05, 2005, 04:33 PM // 16:33

I see this being fixed in a patch. What is there to discourage Signet farming? The best way to do that is keep track of *individual* W/L, average them, and match the guild up with a group with simular results. What point is there to fight in the arena if you get powned by pro's?

BChan · May 05, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12

even better you make sigil customized to people and they can only have one per account. Therefore the only purpose of HoH becomes WaW, getting your first sigil, and bragging.

Aria · May 05, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21

Please read the rules of this forum. The Guild Auditorium is solely a place for guilds to recruit and advertise their guilds under the rules laid out in the stickies. The Q&A would be a better place for your question. However, please please please use the search button first. You'd be surprised at how many answers you'd find to your question if you just use that function.

Closed for not following rules.

May 01, 2005, 07:45 AM // 07:45	#1
Riodan Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	Starting a Guild - General help? First off i'd like to introduce myself, my real name is Jeremy, in-game name(s), Riodan Riordan and Sebastian Saranfell. I'm a 32 year old game'a'holic who recently bought Guild Wars. I belong to a clan/guild called Free World Fighters or FwF, we are an online gaming community with associations in Counterstrike Source, Star Wars Galaxies, Jedi Academy, Soldier of Fortune 2 and a few other games. I've recently created our new guild for Guild Wars and have managed to get the cape (although not without significant confusion.) And our next step is obtaining our guild hall. I guess my question is, is there a way to get the guild hall post-searing and regardless of if we can post or not, how do we go about getting it and what do we need to have to get it? (And for those of you who haven't figured out how to get the Cape yet:) In order to get the cape or to start your guild, you need to see the guild registrar who's directly back from the gate leading to the countryside in Ascalon, simply go up 2 flights of stairs and he's standing to the right of the main building next to a baron or duke with guards. Talk to him, and he'll get you started on your guild. In order to get your cape, you will need to have collected up 2 platinum bars. For those of you who don't know, collect up 2,000 gold pieces, each 1,000 gp = 1 platinum bar. Anyhow, I appreciate your site and your information and look forward to meeting a few of you in-game eventually, in hopes of friendly guild matches and extended fun.

May 03, 2005, 02:37 PM // 14:37	#8
varyag Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Wrath of Nature [Fury] Profession: Me/Mo	This is a scam. I will never give that amount of resources to an opponent guild. I hear of huge alliances of guilds forming to team up in the GvGvG arenas of the Tombs to eliminate any opponents 2 on 1 and push one of their own to the top, then share the fortune once a Sigil is sold. This is a SCAM, defeats the purpose of the competition and if you BUY IT YOU SUPPORT IT. Trash the middlemen! Last edited by varyag; May 04, 2005 at 12:35 AM // 00:35..

May 03, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14	#9
Spylate Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2005	I don't really know about this so thats why I want to know, can you get the sigil on PvE or is it Pvp only? If on PvE how? EDIT: Sigil trader never has those damn sigils! Always she says: "Sorry my mistake I ran out of stock, come back later. Do the traders ever have the sigils? Last edited by Spylate; May 03, 2005 at 03:20 PM // 15:20..

May 04, 2005, 12:51 AM // 00:51	#14
varyag Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Wrath of Nature [Fury] Profession: Me/Mo	I'll try to win one in the HoH for sure, there is no other choice at the moment. The price was 5 to 8 plat a few days ago, 20k+ today and I read about a 25K + 50steel deal. Even with level20 characters, how many hours will it take to farm that? Sure it will be easier to farm for gold/items to trade for it with a fully leveled character in the final missions - but where is the guarantee they won't just keep pushing the price up? Where will it stop? Right now they want about 1/2 (!!!) of an average guild's total money pool, will it matter if your resources double if by then they double the price? Just follow the procedure, get scammed, promote scalping, move on with life. Your counter-arguments sound like you are either to foolish to realize what's going to happen or somehow benefit from it. Shame on you. Sigil trade between players should be outlawed and only conducted at static rates through the NPC Trader. P.S. Answer - Sigils are at the moment availiable only from winning in the PvP tournament - or trading with the people that have one. The Sigil traders are either out of them permanently - or get camped and bought out on a regular basis. Hope that answers it. Last edited by varyag; May 04, 2005 at 12:54 AM // 00:54..

May 05, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21	#20
Aria Sig Fairy Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Once upon a time..	Please read the rules of this forum. The Guild Auditorium is solely a place for guilds to recruit and advertise their guilds under the rules laid out in the stickies. The Q&A would be a better place for your question. However, please please please use the search button first. You'd be surprised at how many answers you'd find to your question if you just use that function. Closed for not following rules. __________________ Ensign: It's the Questions and Answers, not Questions and Shit We Just Made Up.

May 01, 2005, 10:04 PM // 22:04	#2
Flame Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2005	Getting a Guild Hall is a bit more complicated than getting the Cape. The first step is obtaining a Celestial Sigil, which can be aquired two ways. The first is to win in the Hall of Heroes, which is unlikely for many groups unless they are highly coordinated, as well as powerful. The easier way is to simply buy one, which will usually cost around 12,000 gold. To use the Sigil and get a Guild Hall, you must go to Lion's Arch and speak with the Canthan Boat Captain. He will offer to take you to a number of different islands, each of which has a different Hall. There, you simply give the Sigil to an NPC, claiming the island as your own.

May 03, 2005, 10:44 AM // 10:44	#5
corax5 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ye olde England.	I was having the same problems getting the money, isnt the point of the game to have guild battles, thats a bit hard when you have to save up 20k+ for the guild hall.

May 03, 2005, 10:58 AM // 10:58	#6
Flame Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2005	You don't have to save up the money. When I bought mine, I had around 7,000 gold. I borrowed 2,000 from one officer and 1,000 from another, then tossed in a few items to get it. To repay both officers, I just asked every other member to donate 100 gold.

May 03, 2005, 01:57 PM // 13:57	#7
Cymboric Treewalker Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Imperial Palace - Cantha Guild: [SFK] Sacred Forge Knights (founder) Profession: Me/Mo	Still the price seems a bit steep... I thought the sigil vendor was going to sell these things at 2000.

May 03, 2005, 03:21 PM // 15:21	#10
Argent Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005	If you go to the island, the siglils are always sold out.... so good luck w/ buying them cheap.

May 03, 2005, 03:24 PM // 15:24	#11
Spylate Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2005	Still waiting answer for my question

May 03, 2005, 10:47 PM // 22:47	#12
Flame Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2005	They're PvP only, you need to win them in the Hall of Heroes. Varyag, that sounds like the complaint of someone who cannot make the money. If you don't pay, you won't win one in the Hall, because of those Guild Alliances you complain of. So, what do you suggest, camping the Sigil Trader?

May 04, 2005, 12:03 AM // 00:03	#13
SOT Banned Join Date: May 2005 Location: East Texas	Why is there anger about it from the one guy up there? Just follow procedure, get the blasted thing, move on with life. If you cannot get it, ask yourself why, change your tactics. Calm down

May 04, 2005, 10:19 AM // 10:19	#15
Flame Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2005	Half of a guild's money pool? In a guild of 50 players, asking 400 gold each would result in 20,000. You're trying to tell me that most players have less than 1,000 gold?

May 04, 2005, 02:18 PM // 14:18	#16
varyag Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Wrath of Nature [Fury] Profession: Me/Mo	Average PvP guilds have 16 to 20 people, and the price is no longer 20K, its about twice as much. If people continue to be able to collect such sums - there is no reason for the prices not to continue to rise. The scalpers can do this math too.

May 04, 2005, 05:05 PM // 17:05	#17
mearei Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	saw one going for 30k today

May 05, 2005, 04:33 PM // 16:33	#18
butcherboy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005	I see this being fixed in a patch. What is there to discourage Signet farming? The best way to do that is keep track of individual W/L, average them, and match the guild up with a group with simular results. What point is there to fight in the arena if you get powned by pro's?

May 05, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12	#19
BChan Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Parliament of Rooks Profession: N/Me	even better you make sigil customized to people and they can only have one per account. Therefore the only purpose of HoH becomes WaW, getting your first sigil, and bragging.